grumpie925: T.E.A.M.

Renise Mishele (

grumpie925) wrote,
@ 2006-04-20 17:09:00

T.E.A.M.
Hey has anyone heard about this thing called T.E.A.M or team of destiny...perhaps quixtar, amway, or alticor...

if anyone knows anything about any of these let me know!

if this is like what i had to deal with in Vector this will suck!

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	(Anonymous) 2006-04-22 02:13 pm UTC (link)
	T.E.A.M. (of destiny) is a pyramid scam! Beware! (Reply to this)(Thread)

	(Anonymous) 2006-04-23 07:43 am UTC (link)
	Not, a pyrimad scam if it works and since when did companys like Disney, Circut City and Gateway work with scams. it works it's the future of e-commerce and Together,Everyone,Achieves More. TEAM. #1 in multilevel marketing for 7 years straight. You don't know what you don't know. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

(Anonymous)
2006-04-23 02:29 pm UTC (link)

Hey calm down there, sounds like you've been listening to too many tapes and too many cult seminars from the TEAM. That is where they make all their money selling those tapes and meetings. You say they are number one in pyramid marketing for 7 years? Funny Quixtar hasn't been around that long. You mean they got their start in Amway, before it was changed into Quixtar? That's what I thought, and every one of the cult groups claims they are #1.

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Who cares? Whats your plan
(Anonymous)
2006-05-03 03:08 pm UTC (link)

Who cares if the speakers make millions of dollars, who cares if you have to buy stupid tapes,cd's, books,or tickets to seminars! WHO CARES! The compensation plan still pays you according to you bonus schedule. Who cares if its amway, yourway , somebodiesway or whatever?
They still pay you! Call it a cult, klan,gang whatever makes you fill better. We are the richest cult in all the land. Sounds like you got in and you didn't make it happen so now you blame the system and everyone else for you failure instead of yourself. If you don't have a better plan than this and all you can do is find negative than really what good are you doing for anyone.

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	Re: Who cares? Whats your plan (Anonymous) 2007-04-15 05:59 pm UTC (link)
	You say WE don't you mean THEM? I watched my close friend lose alot of money to this scam get out while you still have a shirt. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Know what you speak (Anonymous) 2006-05-03 02:57 pm UTC (link)
	Pyramid scamers don't report your earnings to the IRS. Maybe you should really know waht your talking about before you speak!!! (Reply to this)(Parent)

	QUIXTAR IS IT A SCAM (Anonymous) 2007-11-18 02:41 pm UTC (link)
	Did really to can earned 10000$/month with that?Did somebody here did it yet? (Reply to this)(Parent)

	TEAM (Anonymous) 2006-04-23 12:37 am UTC (link)
	What do you want to know? What are you looking for? Also, sorry for anonymous, never used live journal new to me but my name is Rob (Reply to this)(Thread)

	Re: TEAM grumpie925 2006-04-23 04:05 pm UTC (link)
	hey rob i'm just looking for some generall info...maybe from someone who has been in TEAM before. I'm just trying to figure out, if it is so great how come the only good things i can find about it are at their official website (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

Re: TEAM
(Anonymous)
2006-04-24 03:07 am UTC (link)

Well my name is Bryan I have been in the Team for a little more than a year now and I love it. I am also a senior at Michigan State right now. I plan to get 3 degrees and 2 specializations from state. The reason I say that is because people always say that organizations like the Team tell people to quit school and everything, but its a joke. I have only ever been encouraged to continue to go to school to finish up and get my degree. Right now I am in a situation as a result of the Team where that will be my only income upon graduation. I have the oppertunity to work for my dad's multi-million dollar business and take over ownership in three or four years. However I am not planning on it because I like what I have with the Team much better. I have had a few rough months in the business but it is goign really well for me now. The only people who put negative stuff on the internet about the team are people who are not smart enough to use common sense while building the business. It is easy to spend $10,000 as a result of this business if you dont use common sense and the guidance of your up-line, but if you dont actually do the work in a way that will get you the results, then you will quite and put negative things on the internet as well. Another thing you may hear is that only the guys at the top get all the money because they make money on the tools. Well part of that is true, part is not. People make money on the tools and if you ask them they will say yes (if you are talkign to a person who has been in the business for a while). The part that is not true is that only the people at the top get money as a result of the tool business. That is not true. Everyone who is at the level of Platinum or above will recieve comensation for tools flowing thorugh their business. It took me 14 months to hit that level, and I was working hard. I average roughly 10-15 hours per week working this business. Hope that helps

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	Re: TEAM grumpie925 2006-04-24 04:59 am UTC (link)
	so what exactly do u do with TEAM...cuz people that i talk to that are in it are really secretive about what they actually do. who are u selling stuff to? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

Re: TEAM
(Anonymous)
2006-04-25 06:29 pm UTC (link)

Greetings grumpie925,

T.E.A.M. is a motivational organization affiliated with the Quixtar business (www.quixtar.com). They used to be called Team of Destiny, but they changed thir name to T.E.A.M. recently for an "unknown" reason. As with any Amway/Quixtar motivational organizations, there is deep contraversy on both sides. You will get drastically postive comments and drastically negative comments, but nothing down the center. That is truely a warning sign for anything. Please examine all the facts, and I understand that you probably can't get any.

I was in the Britt World Wide MO for a long time and I detailed much of that training system on my site (www.bwwsot.blogspot.com). Most of the MO's will run the same way, so you might be able to gleam of insight flipping through there.

Good Luck,
xanadustc

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Re: TEAM
(Anonymous)
2006-04-27 08:09 pm UTC (link)

okay what "the biz" accually is "quixtar". it's an online buying club. they have it set up with "lines of sponsership", like TEAM. someone recruites you to join and start buying things throught quixtar. you get a small % back and the people above you in the line also get a % of what you buy. then you start to find people to put below you in the line, so that you can get a larger %. very similar to a pyramid. you spend money, while you don't make any money unless you can convince others to join and spend money, and then they have to convince others to join and spend money, and so on and so on. the things that people get really upset over are the "tools" tapes, cd's, books, seminars, voice mail systems, websites. these things are not offered by quixtar, but are offered by the "line of sponsership", and can cost a lot of money. quixtar will tell you that these tools are optional, but you will experiance pressure from the "l.o.s." to buy them, and they are not cheap.

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Re: TEAM
(Anonymous)
2006-07-16 03:23 pm UTC (link)

Well I can see that buying thru Quixtar and getting a percent back or wholesale and sending others to the site so we can all make and save money, is much better than evryone you tell about a good deal at wallmart you get nothing but wallmart makes all the money plus thru sams club you pay to be a member and you get nothing when you tell someone else to do the same they keep all the money and do not share the profits with people buying from their companies. Figure that one out. Plus most of Quixtar products are concentrates and they aren't shipping water. I don't think wallmart would pay for our childrens educations with our buying there do you. I am only buying things thru quixtar that I save money on and can prove that. My folks have been in the business since it started and in the Amway business previous. All of their children are active in the business and we have a huge family business and we have 3rd generations now buying the products so they are super to have that kind of loyalty, I have seen it. I have seen people so excited about the Nutrilite (vitamins and food supplements) and they tell us their experiences and they is very gratifying to us. Not in Destiny we are the coalition (non affilated to any group or team) only with the Company as Diamonds in the Business in Iowa.

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	Re: TEAM (Anonymous) 2008-03-15 01:20 pm UTC (link)
	sorry team is not alive any more is all mistery but the court rule in favor of quixtar and tell us were are you doing your pv now a day at the 99c store ok im sorry but team are badnews (Reply to this)(Parent)

Re: TEAM

robnbethany
2006-05-01 07:58 pm UTC (link)

Hi, sorry that I havent had the time to write you back. As you can see I opened an account here, Bethany is my wife and we have only been in the TEAM for 3 months. We are actually from the St. Clair Shores area in MI and are with the Patriot team of TEAM. There are many positive things that I can tell you about TEAM but you are going to have to just like anything else in life experience them on your own. I am 30 yrs old and my wife is 23 and we are both Christians.
The only thing that matters in this world is that you do everything to the Glory of God. TEAM has been the only thing in my life business wise that has implemented or followed any of the principles that the Bible says to do.
You are going to hear many negative things about TEAM because of that. Im not sure if you know what this is but my wife and I just recently with the entire youth ministry at our church took 600 teenagers in the Michigan area to a function called BATTLECRY at Ford Field, you can look it up on the website battlecry.com if you haven't. The point I am trying to make is this, Battlecry is a movement that is out to change what this generation has to deal with how much of the media is influencing the younger generation of today ie the terrible things that occur throughout the world. Battlecry is trying to give the generation of today the correct information not the lies of the media like drink this alchoholic beverage and you will have good looking women or men around you. I could get into more but you get the idea. So the reason that I mention that is because TEAM does the same thing to affect this generation. You have heard people talk about go to school get good grades and then get a safe secure job. Well you probaly know that is no longer true, this generation does not have that luxury. Example would be the 40,000 plus jobs that were just terminated by GM and more to come and that is just GM!!
The only way to true wealth is to Define your Dreams, then learn how to do it, and then to go out and achieve it. If you are a reader I can refer you to some great books that kind of outline and goes into directly what I am talking about.
The bottom line is think of where you want to be in 5 yrs and ask yourself and be true to yourself but ask yourself if what you are doing right now is going to get you there.
Just one more thing, this is new so your not going to see it yet but the Leaders of this TEAM wrote a book called LEADING THE LEADERSHIP REVOLUTION and TIME/WARNER has asked them if they can be the publishers of the book.
ON top of that Orrin and Chris said that they did not write the book to make money but to make a difference with this generation so they are donating 100% of the profits,royalties everything to charity, not just to any charity but to the charity that is decided upon by you and all the others involved in caring where millions of dollars can be donated to good causes.
I apologize for being so lengthy I just am very passionate in things that I believe in. We are only on this earth for a little while and I believe in God and he did not give us this great gift of life to just waste it or spend it being negative to everyone. If you have a Bible look up 1 Corinthians 13, 1-13 and you will find that the greatest of these is Love. I have found that these principles are followed by true members of the TEAM. Hope to hear from you soon, Rob and Bethany

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	Re: TEAM (Anonymous) 2006-05-11 01:43 am UTC (link)
	Amen, brother! We're part of WWDB in Minnesota. I've experienced nothing but great things. Keep up the great works & the positive attitude & words! God Bless You. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Re: TEAM (Anonymous) 2007-02-11 02:43 am UTC (link)
	R U Making any money? I hear 99.7% fail. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

Re: TEAM

robnbethany
2007-03-14 03:26 pm UTC (link)

Yes, to answer your question we are making money and better yet we are learning growing and being mentored to make a whole lot more. I have to say though, you are right not everyone is going to make it some people are not teachable,hungry to make more money yes of course but not teachable. They think they know what to do already to get it. Tell me if this is true. "What you have done in your life to this point has gotten you to where you are in your life and if you want different results you have to change what your doing." Also you have people who for as hard as they try they just cant have faith and hope and learn how to dream.
Some dont understand that a growing process is going to stretch you and some people arent willing to strech to grow they would like to stay in thier own comfortable world. For that you are going to get people who have failed their whole life and instead of hoping and dreaming and being taught that failure is part of life they stay down and blame other people, but to get back up after everytime is the important thing.
The most important thing is that we are only here for a short while and we have to decide what this short time is going to stand for, Is it going to just be going to work for my whole life and possibly making the boss wealthy. Or can I be introduced to a way that through helping other people achieve what their life's goals and dreams are your are going to find out that you CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE in this world. That my friend is what the TEAM is all about.
If you have any other questions please post and if your interested in hearing more about where the TEAM is going please e-mail me @ reirob@wowway.com and we can make an appointment to get together.
Thanks and I hope you have a great day,
Rob

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Re: TEAM

robnbethany
2007-03-14 03:40 pm UTC (link)

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	Re: TEAM (Anonymous) 2008-03-15 01:15 pm UTC (link)
	that because quixtar took there ibos and they can no longer do businness with quixtar there was a lawsuit wnd quixtar proof that team were makeing all the money and practing staking quixtar won the law suit (Reply to this)(Parent)

Look For The TRUTH!
(Anonymous)
2006-04-26 07:52 pm UTC (link)

Heres what I know. The T.E.A.M has helped many people not just in the money part but also in there personal lives. I seen people that there self-esteem was zero and they help them to see that they do have some self worth and they are good people. So if you dont make alot money but you get the confidence back to and do well in what ever it is they choose to do what is wrong with that. Plus the info that is out there is only half truths and if you think its scam thats your opinion and you are intitled to that. If you dont have all info and only half truths like all the stuff thats out there maybe you need to get both sides before you open your mouth and take someone elses dreams and goals away. If want to spend money on books or CDs to make myself feel better great cause sure beats spending 100 bucks hour for some shrink to tell me I need to take some drugs to feel better I think Ill stick with what I know works. So I think Ill go listen to a cd thats positive instead all the other crap thats out there

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	Re: Look For The TRUTH! (Anonymous) 2007-04-15 06:04 pm UTC (link)
	That is exactly what they want you to do. Shut out the other influnces in your life. Be a real man and tell me exactly how it has made your life better. (Reply to this)(Parent)

team
(Anonymous)
2006-05-04 08:39 pm UTC (link)

I was involved with quixtar so long ago they were called amway. I was on the tape and book program, went to the seminars and big functions. Saw people like president Bush (the first one), Dan Quale, George Foreman, Les Brown, and many more wonderful speakers. I built my business the about 4000 points a month making an extra 300-400 dollars a month. I had about 50 people in my organization. I got to see parts of the country I would have never seen before had it not been for Amway. I met a lot of good friends to this day through my Amway business. And though Im not involved with the big A anymore I still utilize the tapes and books i purchased many years ago today. Its a great motivator listening to the stories and the books are books you can find in any bookstore or garage sale. Anyway the only thing i dont like about the Amway business back when i was involved was the lying about the tool profits. I think thats what hurt them the most. I got great value out of the huge events, I was at an event in Salt Lake City Utah that had over 100,000 people attend it. It was so big they had to rent two huge facilities to hold us all. Im not sure how many people are attending todays functions anyone been to one lately please let me know.

thanks

Jeff

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Re: team
(Anonymous)
2006-05-11 01:46 am UTC (link)

I'm really not trying to be sarcastic Jeff, by why were you only making $300-400/month at 4000PV????? Maybe 'cuz that's 80's dollars or 70's dollars. Not sure when you were in. Anyway, we've made up to $800/month at the 1500PV level. We could've made more if we did more retail with higher margins.

Also, what tape money deception? I know that at Platinum and above, you make a percentage off of the tool flow in your biz. I've known that for some time. How is that deceptive? They certainly earn it!

Thanks Jeff.

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Re: team
(Anonymous)
2006-05-11 05:13 pm UTC (link)

I operated a business from 1991-1 year after quixtar launched, three legs, 1 big leg, 2 small ones. When weve asked upline about all the profits from tools they lied and told us that the profits were used to fund events where money was lost. Can you believe they expected us to believe they were dumb enough to hold events where they lost money. It would never happen. They would team up with another diamond to make it profitable. Well thats the deception I am talking about. At 1500pts whats the percent commission your making. Its been so long i have forgotten. i remember that the Commission Volume (CV) would be roughly double. so 3000 times lets say 15% (not sure if thats right) but that would mean Quixtars only paying out $450 and thats not including money to your distributers in your group unless your like 50 people wide and each of them doing 90 pv a month. In that case congrats but i dont see how the math you doing adds up. Math was always a good subject of mine and the amway math never added up right. Im not mad at it, like i said i learned more from the the amway kingpins than i did through high school and college. But if yo do come back and see this reply im interested in the math of your profit. could you please take some time to reply to this post with how its calculated so i will understand. thanks

Jeff

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Re: team
(Anonymous)
2006-05-11 11:06 pm UTC (link)

Unbelievable that you're questioning me on my bonus money. Anyway, at 1500PV, you're at a payout level of 15% of your BV. We are wide and have about 40 downline, 20 or so, who purchase on a regular basis. Just a couple over the bonus level. Throw in some retail & I'd say it's a pretty good deal for the time & effort put in. It's enabled me to be an at-home mom for a few years now!!! Can't put a price on that.

Plus, this biz has been so much more fun & enjoyable than any job I've ever had in my life!

As far as the tools deception...hmmmm...I may have to directly ask that of our upline diamond to see what the response is. Hmmmmm.....I do believe some of the profit may go right back into the marketing pot. Why is that hard to believe? It takes money to create the marketing materials, reserve the convention centers & hotel rooms, etc.

I just know that nothing (except my Lord) has made me feel so good, worthy, hopeful, confident as being part of this business & association has.

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Re: team
(Anonymous)
2006-05-12 05:56 pm UTC (link)

Unbelieeeeeeeevaaaaable.....(sounds like jody victor to me) dont get me wrong Im not attacking you like everyone else is on the internet. Just the deception behind the tool biz is all. Its known and documented. The upline thats supposed to be all and mighty consistently lied about the motivation business, and I dont have to live with that they do.

I would highly recomend Eric Scheibler's Ebook, "Merchants of Deception" its a free download just search in Google or Yahoo. Very packed with information.

Best of luck to ya

Jeff

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Re: team (Props to you!)
(Anonymous)
2006-09-19 11:48 am UTC (link)

I entirely agree... in order to drag my friend from wasting too much of his time (he was recruited and 100% convinced), I read Merchants of Deception. It's a journey from a Noob to an Emerald, with networks all around the world! His best year after 100 hours a week is $34,000. Got bankrupt, lost precious time while his children was growing and had his name slandered. What would one pays to be called a "murderer", a "druggie", an "alchie", a "gambler addict"? Join Quixtar, rise to the top of the level, find your morals and get erased!

It's a good read... once you get to page 180ish, your mouth will be just dropping. This be the kind of scary enterprise parents tell their kids to avoid. My mom apparently didn't learn this lesson when she got into Amway and probably dropped 1-2k plus. Erm... she didn't make much. Luckily, she's a house wife and my dad's an engineer so our lives are not dependent on this "business model"

Oooo and here's a link to some overhead cost. Quixtar and Amway are built on the same model.

http://www.amquix.info/Amway_system_savings.html

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Re: team (Props to you!)
(Anonymous)
2006-10-02 11:17 pm UTC (link)

As someone who is currently in TEAM, and worked it for 2 solid years, I guess I can give some experiences. I will not knock the business for anyone that is successful. That is great and wonderful, and I am happy for you! But to me, I just never saw the returns (profits) that they claimed I would. The Amway math, as stated above, never worked out. Plus Quixtar is promoting these sports nutrition stuff now (Power bars, Energy Drinks, etc..) It's called XS. Well, anyways, They have a formula that says if you buy 6 cases of drinks per month plus 2 cases of energy bars that you'll make money. Let me just tell you that in order to do that, this requires spending approx. $150-175/month on just energy drinks!!! This does not include any other purchases! This is 1/2 my grocery budget! How much sense does it make to spend $175 EVERY month on Energy drinks??? I know this is a long post and I don't want to bash anyone who is successful at it. I just don't think spending 150% more (on average) for most products, just to get a 5-15% bonus check is very smart. Oh well. Hope this helps.

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	Re: team (Props to you!) (Anonymous) 2007-02-11 02:48 am UTC (link)
	I got propositioned by some hot chic to be under her! What kind of cult is this? Is there wife swapping and fornicating involved? (Reply to this)(Parent)

(Anonymous)
2008-03-15 01:08 pm UTC (link)

sorry to here what happen to you but it was team not quixtar that fail the team leader were the ones tell every one to buy all the tool and to do the staking practice not the corporation in fact quixtar try for 2 yrs to tell them not to be doingit
we have been with quixtar for the pass 5 yrs and is true if you invest your time , educated your self and use common sensen you can make money and a teem were every one win but is up to you to do investiged and if it dont make sensen or you are investing more that you are getting back you are in the wrong business
as a business woman is all about dollars and cents you went for the dream and the motivation and forgot thet is abusiness not a religion this happen to many IBO not to me because i see it only as one more way to make money
sorry darling

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TEAM
(Anonymous)
2008-03-19 05:06 pm UTC (link)

i would think there would be no use for a tool system for a business if the product sold itself, from what i have read and seen here the problem is not the organizations that plug into quixtar/amway its the company that wont make their prices competitive, that is what seems to have fueled the tool business, if quixstar amway wants to get ride of systems like the team then maybe they should make it easier to sell their products and idea. but it seems they are making the same mistake as the butler brothers, they use to be partners with sam walton.

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